On tonight's edition if turrible ideas with Shop Teacher ...

"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher)
11/29/2018 at 21:08 • Filed to: Wouldn't he rather buy something that might be good?

A car that would likely be even slower at rallycrossing than the RallyMetro.

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No, I’m not actually going to do it. It’s a dumb fun idea though.

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DISCUSSION (41)

shop-teacher > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:13

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6715772959.html

XJDano > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:19

My parents are probably going to pickup a Nissan xtera that has a check engine light for $300. If I can fix it ( it may be the catalytic converter).... they may get it plated.

CB > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:19

I feel like the length and overhangs would be detrimental in rallycross.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:23

Want to rally? Get a rally car!(comes pre-damaged!)

https://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/d/94-audi-s4-urs4/6740188777.html

Agrajag > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:29

DO IT!

This is in no way a terrible idea.

Stef Schrader > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:29

Someone locally does this with an old Merc d iesel. Courses are mostly flat-out in that thing. It’s wonderful. The ultimate momentum car.

fintail > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:30

Too bad it’s not an automatic. For a grand it could be fun.

shop-teacher > Stef Schrader
11/29/2018 at 21:43

That’s pretty much how it was in the RallyMetro. A Festiva popped up for sale for $295. When I mentioned that to a guy I run with, he said, “You’ve gotten good enough at this, that you really aughta buy yourself something with more than 100 hp.”

I’ve been seriously considering a ratty 9 44, but I’m scared of buying Porsche parts.

shop-teacher > XJDano
11/29/2018 at 21:44

Nice!

Hey Julie > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:45

At least get a turbo 300, that will be way more interesting. The suspension is already set up for rally from the factory

shop-teacher > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle
11/29/2018 at 21:45

My wallet just ran away and hid itself.

shop-teacher > CB
11/29/2018 at 21:46

Didn't stop me from Rallycrossing my Roadmaster wagon.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/29/2018 at 21:47

Manual is strongly preffered for my next purchase.

shop-teacher > Agrajag
11/29/2018 at 21:48

I question your judgement ;)

shop-teacher > Hey Julie
11/29/2018 at 21:48

That would be interesting!

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 21:49

Why not? I love this idea! No idea how bad parts costs are, but if they’re not terribad, why not?

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW
11/29/2018 at 21:52

Honestly, b ecause I’d like my next one to be quicker. I think this would actually be even slower.

CB > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:08

LS swapped 944.

shop-teacher > CB
11/29/2018 at 22:10

If I could afford that, I wouldn’t be worried about buying Porsche parts

fintail > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:12

I was joking. An automatic 240D will maybe be the slowest car you’ve ever driven.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/29/2018 at 22:15

Gotcha. I've heard they're unbelievably slow.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:20

So.... small block Chevy swap instead? :P

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:35

Yeah, I could see that. A 240d auto would definitely be slower. A 4 speed is probably still slower than a Metro with all of its gears intact.

Stef Schrader > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:42

They’re not terrible, TBH. It’s cheaper than my Mitsu to keep going. Lots of aftermarket and junkyard support, plus plenty of cheapskates making them work on the forums out there.

shop-teacher > Stef Schrader
11/29/2018 at 22:44

Good to know. Maybe I'll go for it then.

Agrajag > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:47

That’s usually a wise course of action.

shop-teacher > BaconSandwich is tasty.
11/29/2018 at 22:51

RRiiiiiight!

fintail > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 22:55

I suspect 0-60 is no better than ~20 seconds, even if in fine tune. Add several seconds to an automatic, maybe closer to 30.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/29/2018 at 23:03

That’s kind of impressive, in a terrible way.

fintail > shop-teacher
11/29/2018 at 23:07

Made for malaise era road speeds and sold to a usually older and patient demographic who wanted jewel like build quality and the potential of a decades-long lifespan rather than speed.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/30/2018 at 07:09

I would argue something that slow is rather dangerous. Merging on to the highway at a safe speed would be impossible in many places.

fintail > shop-teacher
11/30/2018 at 09:29

I definitely agree. A 240D manual probably crosses that line. 0-60 in more than 15 seconds or so probably counts as dangerous in many wide open high volume suburban driving environments. Some of these old diesels also have top speeds of around 70 mph - and it will take an eon to get there. Not good for an evasive maneuver, not to mention the ire you create behind you.

I can’t see how anyone in, say, Detroit, could drive such a car, with its fast traffic and short 1930s style on ramps. Then again, I saw zero old MBs there, so that might answer it.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/30/2018 at 10:44

Yeah, there are certain on-ramps in C hicago where trying to merge onto the Dan Ryan in one of these would amount to suicide and/ murder.

I stopped seeing old diesel Mercs in the late 90's. I knew a couple people who drove them back then, and they were extremely rusty and crusty. I don’t think I’ve seen one on the road in at least a decade, could be 15 years.

AestheticsInMotion > shop-teacher
11/30/2018 at 17:27

What about a new beetle? Those have gotten pretty cheap, and have some oomph.

I love the 944 idea btw

shop-teacher > AestheticsInMotion
11/30/2018 at 19:05

Eh, if I'm going to buy German parts, it better be for something I really want ... Like a 944.

fintail > shop-teacher
11/30/2018 at 22:07

I think I remember driving on that, I drove all over when I was there. I do remember a north-south route that reminded me of a 1930s parkway.

I see old diesel MBs almost every day here. They can rust, but I think it takes them around 40 years to get rusty here.

shop-teacher > fintail
11/30/2018 at 23:03

The Dan Ryan is the North-South bit of expressway, with entrance ramps that are only a few hundred feet long, and drop you basically blind into the fast lane.

fintail > shop-teacher
12/01/2018 at 13:13

Now that I look at it, the one I am thinking of is called “Edens”, at least according to google maps. I see I drove on Dan Ryan on my way back from MI - traffic was jammed to a halt at 1pm. Reminded me of home.

shop-teacher > fintail
12/01/2018 at 16:00

Yeah, if you go North on the Dan Ryan, and hang a right at the split it turns into The Edens. I grew up near where The Edens comes to an end and turns into regular highway 41.

No surprise it was jammed up at 1pm. I avoid it at all costs. But for going from Evanston to MI , there’s really no good way around it.

fintail > shop-teacher
12/02/2018 at 18:21

I recall when I left IL on a Saturday morning, it wasn’t bad, but returning on Friday afternoon, it was as bad as being at home. Of course, Chicagoland is much larger than Seattle.

I’ll still take it over driving around Detroit, that got old fast.

shop-teacher > fintail
12/02/2018 at 20:59

I've never been to Detroit, but I'll take your word for it.